gzerenner
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Posted: Jul 13, 2004 10:08 AM
Msg. 1 of 6
ZNE AA Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ZNE AA expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for ZNE MA FIC AD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 FIC MD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 FIC AX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 FIC MX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 FIC GD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FIC GX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FIC HD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 FIC TD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 FIC JD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 FIC VD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 FIC JX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 FIC VX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 YYS AD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 YYS MD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 YYS AE Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 YYS ME Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OIJ AD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OIJ MD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AE Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AE expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for XIV ME XIV AF Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AF expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for XIV MF XIV AG Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AG expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for XIV MG XIV AJ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AJ expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for XIV MJ XIV AL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XIV AL expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for XIV ML QUR GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR GW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR GX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR HX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QUR TX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 XVA AO Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XVA MO Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XVA AT Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XVA MT Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XVA AY Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 XVA MY Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ZGS AA Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ZGS AA expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for ZGS MA ZGS AE expiration date of 1/22/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/25/2005 for ZGS ME ZGS ME Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ZGS AU Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ZGS AU expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for ZGS MU AGN HN Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AGN TN Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AGN HO Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AGN TO Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AGN JN Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 AGN VN Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 OVM AA Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OVM MA Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 ITQ GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 ITQ SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 WPI AX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WPI MX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WPI AZ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WPI MZ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 QSL HC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL TC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL HD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL TD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL HW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL TW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 QSL IC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 QSL UC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 QSL IW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 QSL UW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 QSL LC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 QSL XC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 QSL LD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 QSL XD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 QSL LW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 QSL XW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 FQG GU Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SU Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG GW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005
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DTN_Jay_Froscheiser
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Posted: Jul 15, 2004 11:00 AM
Msg. 2 of 6
Im not entirely sure what you are showing. Can you elaborate?
Jay Froscheiser DTN Market Access, LLC.
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gzerenner
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Posted: Jul 15, 2004 12:07 PM
Msg. 3 of 6
Hi Jay:
The lines showing...
ZNE AA Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005
This means that DTN is sending an expiration date of 1/25/2005 and we know that is wrong because an expiration date for an option is never past the 23rd day of the month.
For the lines showing...
ZNE AA expiration date of 1/25/2005 doesn't match the expiration date of 1/22/2005 for ZNE MA
This means that the CALL (ZNEAA) has an expiration date of 1/25/2005 according to the DTN data feed. And that could be wrong since the PUT that matches up with it (ZNEMA) has a different expiration date of 1/22/2005.
Thanks for you help on this.
Greg Zerenner Poweropt.com
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gzerenner
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Posted: Jul 15, 2004 01:31 PM
Msg. 4 of 6
Looks like some of them might have been fixed recently.
Here are the ones I am seeing out of one of my DTN boxes as of today, a much shorter list than before...
WHR IJ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 WHR UJ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 WHR IK Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 WHR UK Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 9/25/2004 WHR LJ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 WHR XJ Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 DIA LW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 DIA XW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 CQS BW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 CQS NW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 UNC BB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 UNC NB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 UNC HB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 UNC TB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 UNC KB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 UNC WB Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 NBL AL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 NBL ML Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 NBL BL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 NBL NL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 NBL KL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 NBL WL Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 AQO AW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 AQO MW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 AQO HD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AQO TD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AQO HW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AQO TW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 AQO JW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 AQO VW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 10/25/2004 WAU AC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WAU MC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WAU AD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 WAU MD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OXT AC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OXT MC Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OXT AD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 OXT MD Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 1/25/2005 QUR GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR GW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR GX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 QUR SX Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 DJV LW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 DJV XW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 12/25/2004 GDT HF Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 GDT TF Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 ACL BR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 ACL NR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 2/25/2005 ACL HR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 ACL TR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 8/25/2004 ACL KR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 ACL WR Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 11/25/2004 ITQ GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 ITQ SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG GU Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SU Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG GV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SV Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG GW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005 FQG SW Expiration day > 23 -- Date = 7/25/2005
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DTN_Jay_Froscheiser
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Posted: Jul 16, 2004 09:19 AM
Msg. 5 of 6
ok.. here is what we found:
The process we use to add new symbols to the feed/database is automatic for options. The current algorithm we use to add the expiration date is hard coded (because we don't get the expriation date from the exchange with the trade data). This "bad" expiration date, should only be seen on the first day the option was added. Then, nightly, we receive a option data file from OCC which provides the accurate expiration date. The database is updated, and you will have accurate date for those symbols. Thus, you should only see the bad date on the first day, then it is corrected. Obviously, this isn't very good, and our Ticker team is now looking into this to come up with a better algorithm to determine the expiration date as soon as the contract is added.
This would explain why the list of symbols you see with bad dates is changing each day.
Jay Froscheiser DTN Market Access, LLC.
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tadams
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Posted: Jul 19, 2004 10:08 PM
Msg. 6 of 6
How about this: http://www.cboe.com/TradTool/2004_2005Calendar.pdfIs there currently a 'safe' day of the week to receive option fundamentals on? My application periodically verifies that I've captured all symbols and I just noticed that I have the incorrect dates for many symbols in my database. *argh* Ted
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